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loi 2011-3-6 12:25: 太灰暗
I like comedy & happy drama.

羽扇一搖 2011-3-6 09:51: 你大概是我认识的仔迷中，唯一对战神意见比较大的。你说沉闷指什么？太灰暗还是太残酷？其实有些公共电视的戏剧i，比战神还残酷呢。我倒是不计较这些，因为这毕竟是社会现实。王子公主的戏，我真的是为了演员的美貌才看的，因生活根本不会吹出粉红色泡泡啊！05年以前我看电影比较多。

说仔第一个去日本宣传，只是我的推测，。因流星字幕版是03年12月在日本播出的（之前有没有配音版还没查到资料），仔04年2月去日本拍战神的赛车戏，就已经动员了上百日本粉丝了，那言的粉丝也不会少。但言在03-05年拍白色巨塔之前，3年没接戏，只出了一张唱片。那仔05年3月去日本宣传战神，兼宣传流星（办了一个流星花园F4WORLD展览---图片巡回展览），是柴姐带着的。那时言早跟柴姐闹翻了，柴怎么可能带他出国宣传呢？那F4首次在日本集体亮相是05年4月27日，之后在7月推出四人的日本写真集[F4@tokyo]。旭第一次到日本宣传戏剧应该是07年白色巨塔，蔡导带去的，同行的还有戴立忍张钧宁。这些就是我的证据。当然这之前，他就有代言日本的银饰Mia，有没有去日本办过活动？我还没有查到。

言拍麻辣鲜师之前，做过5年模特儿，还曾经在日本住过半年等机会（好多人不知道他有这段）。拍麻辣的时候被柴姐看中的，所以麻辣的制作人柯宜勤、柴姐、胖哥冯家瑞都算他的贵人。流星2001年3月开拍，4月播出F4就暴红了，可是他拖到大概7月才跟柴姐签经纪约，是四人中最晚签约的。由此可见他谨慎小心犹豫不决的个性了。

loi 2011-3-5 12:35: 羽扇一搖: 哈哈哈，这就是他的思路，类似地中海式贫血，就是在地中海游泳久了，会得贫血。这小子，脑子就是那么好用。谢谢你告诉我这个，因为视频中他都没讲过这些话呢。话 ...
I don't like Mars very much.
It's too depressing.
I only like Chen Ling.
It's one of few roles that Vic played is sort of outgoing.
I didn't know S before.
I don't know many Chinese stars.
I know some of them now all because of Vic's drama.

仔仔还是F4中第一个去日本宣传的呢
I am glad to know that.
I used to think Jerry is more popular in JP.
But lately I learn that's only because Jerry's trip or events in JP got on news more.
Like last time Jerry's song played in a JP chain stores or something like that.
It got on the news.
The same thing with Vic's song happened couple weeks or months earlier but the news didn't mention it.
.

loi 2011-3-5 07:38: I enjoy reading some old news from the link you gave me.
I found some interesting information.
I like this one.
但对于三月十四日的日本白色情人节，仔仔倒是不很了解，反问：“白色情人节是不是要送白色朱古力？
ha ha ha

loi 2011-3-4 09:42: It's interesting that Mars is so popular among Vic's fans.
I used to like drama dealing with people's mental problem.
I guess I want to know what they are thinking.
But I am over that now.
I feel it's too depressing.
I like Vic as Chen Ling but I don't like Mars as much as other Vic's drama.
Therefore I don't like the leading lady that much.
I saw some Vic's TV programs with her.
I dislike some of her thinking I guess.

他只是女人缘特别好而已
ha ha ha
It's true though.
He is so kind to other people no wonder everyone likes him especailly female.
I heard of Tianya's talk is mean so I don't like to go there very much.
I do find some good threads to go to.

There are usually some fans not reasonable. Vic's fans are not too bad. I think that Vic is a good example to follow so Vic's fans are not too bad on that area. After being in Baidu for a while I notice Vic has some very wise fans to lead the new/young fans.

Thank you for the link.
I will try it out sometimes.

羽扇一搖 2011-3-4 08:23: 还有一个办法，就是查新浪网限制时间范围的新闻，国内最大信息保存量最大的，就是新浪网啦，尤其有些照片还能找到。你保存这个地址：http://search.sina.com.cn/?c=news&q=%22%D6%DC%D3%E5%C3%F1%22&range=all&time=custom&stime=20050701000000&etime=20050801000000&num=20。你看最左边有“指定日期范围”几个字，输入你要的日期间隔，基本上三地新闻都能找到。

另外，看联盟新闻会得到一个印象，就是大王比许玮纶更受欢迎，尤其内地的仔迷，都是通过戏剧才认识她，大概更受到战神的影响吧？台湾因此而流失了不少粉丝，是因为不喜欢大王彪悍高调的个性。那大王后来被仔迷讨厌，也是她自己的言行有些过分造成的。

人家告诉我，大王迷也满不理智的。有一部分人从一开始就不喜欢仔，嫌弃仔，觉得仔配不上她家大王；另一部分就是恨仔不娶大王。很自相矛盾吧？

天涯的帖子也是各派混杂，看完不要过于受他们影响就好了。像有些人认为仔劈腿，我就认为不可能，他只是女人缘特别好而已（这是言承旭说的啦！）但这并不能代表他背着许跟大王谈感情啊！

loi 2011-3-4 01:12: 羽扇一搖: 啊，太好了，你能看到就好，不然我白白写了那么多。等你看完了那些新闻后，自然会有自己的判断。如果你愿意，我也很想听听你的看法啦。
It might take me a long time to read all those news.
I kind of like your 分析 better.
It's hard to tell which part of news is true which is false especailly for some new fans like me.
You knew all the things going on around at that time so you probably know what's going on better.
I do notice that Vic usually did wait for the the female side to reply first.
I also read some fans mentioned that before.
From this news & Zhen's old video of Vic showed up on some charity event with Shiou that Zhen posted in one the old thread lately I notice something.
Both sort of related to Vic's personal relationship.
That's why I don't usually see them when I look for Vic's information to catch up Vic's past that I missed.
It's hard to find them because most of Vic's fans don't mention them.
That's probably why I found lots of old video I had never seen when I was reading some threads in Tianya. (from the list of 仔吧 suggested, not those "黑" 仔's thread-I can't stand those)
I tried read some old threads in LM but lots of pictures no longer there.
Tianya has big nice pictures in some Vic's threads.

loi 2011-3-3 10:58: I am such a slow learner.
I finally figuered out how to see the whole message you wrote.
Thank you for the hint.

loi 2011-3-2 10:32: How do I see the whole thing of your reply.
Is there more after ... ...?

loi 2011-3-2 09:37: I didn't know you answered me already.
I guess I am still learning how to use this new site.
Thank you for the link.
I will go look for it.

羽扇一搖 2011-2-27 18:42: 用上海活动的图截的，很可爱吧？要的就是独一无二。

如月夕子是我姐 2011-2-27 13:12: 喔，那个泡泡很有色彩，真是人景相得益彰，不错不错(*^__^*) 嘻嘻……

如月夕子是我姐 2011-2-27 13:09: 在这里也可以见到你的身影，(*^__^*) 嘻嘻……我一点也不奇怪，这事有点激动，因为见到朋友了(*^__^*) 嘻嘻……我以后有时间一定来着，留下我的只言片语还有足迹

羽扇一搖 2011-2-24 22:36: 啊，你不用这么多抱歉，你我都没有错。那边是新闻区，当然可以贴新闻啦。我不想理她，不然一定会吵起来。何必呢？你有问题，尽管问，用私信也没问题。
从7/13-7/25深情密码定装记者会，有非常非常多新闻可以看，有车祸也有绯闻。你不是有联盟的ID吗，建议你去那边看。http://www.vicpower.net/asp/index.asp?boardid=15&TopicMode=0&List_Type=0,1,0&Page=108这个是链接，我把新闻按发表时间倒序排序的，你慢慢看。记得出车祸的时间是05年7月13日凌晨，往前看就好了。
我理解的情况是，仔的车上有2圈外人，没受伤，他不想多牵扯别人，所以说没有。车祸发生的时候，由于气囊爆开，仔有短暂昏迷。这时大S来电，仔说他出车祸了，不能多讲，就把电话挂断。然后仔打电话通知家属跟公司。第一批到的是警察、他哥哥，还有大S。因为S只拥抱了仔，确定他没事就离开了。所以，电视台没有拍到她。
仔到了警所，做酒测笔录之类的，葛姐跟助理才到，帮他办保释。无论照片还是视频，都没有拍到他哥跟葛姐。F4处理感情事，都是以女生说法为准，这个小支很早就说过，大S一天不说她去了现场，仔当然也不能讲。她承认了，仔才跟进的。所以他们从承认超越男女关系、未来不排除任何方向到交往到分手，都是大S先发言。对于跟许的关系，也是如此。如果你还有不懂，明天发电子邮件给我吧！

loi 2011-2-24 21:36: I am sorry that I asked so many questions & caused your problem.
Thank you for answering them with lots detailed information.
I am sorry that some fan wasn't happy about it & caused your trouble.
I could have asked you those questions privately but I really don't think I was the only one with questions.
I really learned a lot from the old articles you provided.
I was going to ask more question & have more comments but I didn't.
It would mention Da S & I know many people wouldn't like it.
Since it's pm now I will ask.

Did the press mistaken 葛福鴻 as Da S's mom & 長髮披肩經紀人呂淑娟 as Da S?
So they so called their love relationship came public from the car accident was never real?
Or they meant the 2nd car accident near Da S's house?

One report said that 車上有兩位男性朋友.
Other report mentioned that Vic said there was none.
So they might be the other 2 cars' owers?

羽扇一搖 2011-1-29 11:30: 不要意思，这个东西我没有耶，只听过大家提到，并没有人做成文件分享给大家啦！

loi 2011-1-29 10:32: Do you have Vic's 肉麻情歌?
If you do can you email me that?
Thank you.

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